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rizzy



Joined: 15 Nov 2006
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PostDate: Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:51 am   Subject: Question on multiple storefronts using same database Reply with quote

Ok, here is my question/problem.

We have one main web store that we have had for over 4 years. This store has multiple categories that are growing. Currently we are looking for a new host and a new shopping cart, so we can move forward and have more control.

We would like to keep the main store active, but split off into multiple niche stores. We would have MainSite.com - NicheSiteA.com - NicheSiteB.com - NicheSiteC.com... etc. This will allow us to organize the stores more and be a better shopping experience for the user.

If we take a shopping cart and give each store it's own look and feel can each sub-site pull it's product info, data and all that from 1 central database that each site would have access to?
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tcraw1010
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Location: Orange County, CA (USA)

PostDate: Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:06 am   Subject: Reply with quote

Why not keep it one site, yet have separate sub-domains pointing to the various companion websites? I would think that this could save you a lot of money on both hosting and shopping cart costs (unless, of course, you use a free/open-source cart like osCommerce or CubeCart).


As for finding a new web host, I have been using www.aplus.net (ePro plan) and I have been very happy with it, thus far. Tons of web space adn features for the price. *(If you're interested, let me know and I'll give you my referral number Wink )



TOM
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rizzy



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PostDate: Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:14 am   Subject: Reply with quote

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Why not keep it one site, yet have separate sub-domains pointing to the various companion websites? I would think that this could save you a lot of money on both hosting and shopping cart costs (unless, of course, you use a free/open-source cart like osCommerce or CubeCart).



As for finding a new web host, I have been using www.aplus.net (ePro plan) and I have been very happy with it, thus far. Tons of web space adn features for the price. *(If you're interested, let me know and I'll give you my referral number Wink )



TOM

We are going for more of a site like this: http://www.netshops.com/ Not nearly as large as this company, but the same type of idea.
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tcraw1010
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PostDate: Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:46 pm   Subject: Reply with quote

WOW ... That is one impressive site. Shocked

Okay, so my first question would be - Does that site own/operate ALL of those stores they feature? Or are they more of a "middle-man" type of thing for promoting and selling the various webstore's profucts?

Ironically, the website buisiness I am developing operates on a similar principle - although more focused on a niche market.


It would seem to me that you can operate all of these "stores" off of one hosting account (though it would have to be fairly large - perhaps a dedicated server). Many hosting accounts these days offer multiple database suppor, with opetions to purchase more t .... so I would think that you could take advantage of this by spreading out your data-driven information amongst several different databased (depending on how many they allow you to have).

Again, you would obviously have sub-domains pointing to the individual stores, with your primary domain for your primary/central hub store.


Bottom line .... in my non-professional opinion, I do not think you need multiple hosting plans - though I do tend to think you will need multiple database integration.


Do you have a url for your CURRENT store I can take a look at ??



TOM
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rizzy



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PostDate: Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:02 pm   Subject: Reply with quote

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WOW ... That is one impressive site. Shocked

Okay, so my first question would be - Does that site own/operate ALL of those stores they feature? Or are they more of a "middle-man" type of thing for promoting and selling the various webstore's profucts?


Ironically, the website buisiness I am developing operates on a similar principle - although more focused on a niche market.


It would seem to me that you can operate all of these "stores" off of one hosting account (though it would have to be fairly large - perhaps a dedicated server). Many hosting accounts these days offer multiple database suppor, with opetions to purchase more t .... so I would think that you could take advantage of this by spreading out your data-driven information amongst several different databased (depending on how many they allow you to have).

Again, you would obviously have sub-domains pointing to the individual stores, with your primary domain for your primary/central hub store.

Bottom line .... in my non-professional opinion, I do not think you need multiple hosting plans - though I do tend to think you will need multiple database integration.

Do you have a url for your CURRENT store I can take a look at ??

TOM

They are in charge of running all those sites. They are only 4 years old and are due to make over $100 million this year in sales.
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tcraw1010
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PostDate: Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:16 pm   Subject: Reply with quote

That's one hell of a drop-shipping success story.
I mean, there's no way it could be anything else - with all of those products.


Where did you read about them? How do you know about their sales volume and such?
(I only ask because I would like to read about them as well)


Can we see YOUR site ?? Smile
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rizzy



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PostDate: Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:39 pm   Subject: Reply with quote

Here is there information on NetShops: http://www.netshopsinc.com/news.cfm?zone=5&subZone=2

This is our site: http://www.bostontables.com
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tcraw1010
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PostDate: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:33 am   Subject: Reply with quote

I suggested to Kerry and Brad that an interview with the founders of NetShops would, in my opinion, be a fantastic article for Practical Ecommerce magazine. The story behind NetShops success is the stuff every aspiring netrepeneur dreams of.



Again, given the sheer volume of potential data that operating several different niche stores - as does NetShops - I would think that you would require several different databases. Again, this can be realtively easily accomplished using MySQL - and many web hosts these days offer plans with multiple MySQL database integration.



TOM
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Abison



Joined: 26 Feb 2007
Posts: 1

PostDate: Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:58 pm   Subject: Reply with quote

rizzy wrote:
Here is there information on NetShops: http://www.netshopsinc.com/news.cfm?zone=5&subZone=2

This is our site: http://www.bostontables.com


Hi Rizzy,

Have you found a solution yet? Is there any interest in your company having integrated communications between your back end inventory and your eCommerce site? Also, do you do much in the area of phone / mail orders?

Thanks much!
-Scott
Abison
Hartville, Ohio
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bgetting
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Joined: 08 Jan 2006
Posts: 170
Location: Newport, Oregon

PostDate: Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:31 pm   Subject: To Answer Your Question Reply with quote

To answer the original question in this thread, there shouldn't be any problem with having multiple stores draw off of one database. Then again, you might find reasons why you would want all the sites to have their own individual databases.

Even if you decide to use subdomains, you will be using the same database server, which means you have a few choices. You can create a database for each site and therefor have them each separate. The upside to this is that if there is a problem with the database, it only affects the sub-site that it serves. The downside is that you then have a bunch of databases to keep track of, and to make sure and back up.

Another option is to have one database with all your stores feeding from it. The stores and be individual installations, even different types of shopping carts of applications. Most applications will allow you to set a table prefix, usually during the database setup portion of installation. This tells the application to create tables that are prefixed with a unique prefix, allowing you to run multiple application from one database.

For example, if you were going to have three stores, each of them using a different shopping cart software (or the same, it doesn't matter) at the subdomains:

Code:
store1.example.com
store2.example.com
store3.example.com


and you wanted them to all use the same database, called something like "online_stores", you would set the "table prefix" for each of the stores as follows, respectively

Code:
store1_
store2_
store3_


What happens then is that all the tables required for each application will be prefixed with this. Let's say the table called "config" is created by the first application (store1.example.com). It would create the following table in your database:

Code:
store1_config


Hopefully this helps you out with regard to hosting multiple applications and using the same database.
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